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June 23, 2025

Podcast: Closing the Validation Loop

The difference between a promising pilot and a successful scale-up? Making sure you've closed the loop, from problem to proof.

Maarten van Kroonenburg Founder, BW Ventures

Podcast episode. Listen on Substack.

The difference between a promising pilot and a successful scale-up? A closed validation loop, from problem to proof.

In this episode:

  • What an open validation loop looks like in year two
  • The proof points that close the loop
  • When scaling is actually justified

If you've worked in corporate innovation long enough, you've seen this happen.

A team has a promising idea.

A flashy demo.

A successful pilot.

Then, a year or two later, someone asks: "Wait… where's the revenue?"

It doesn't fail because people weren't working hard.

It fails because too many teams stop validating too early.

They test for feasibility.

They test for usability.

But skip the harder questions: Will this customer pay? Will they buy again? Will they refer others?

That gap is why so many ventures stall out between €400k and €800k in revenue.

The 8-Step Loop

Here's the loop every team needs to close before making the case for more budget:

  1. Narrow the Niche — Not "all hospitals" but "small rural clinics"
  2. Find the Real Problem — What will they pay to solve?
  3. Map the Alternatives — What workaround are they using today?
  4. Make a Clear Promise — What compelling value can you guarantee?
  5. Get Commitment — Will at least 40% of early pitches convert?
  6. Build Only What You Promised — Solve one core problem, incredibly well.
  7. Confirm the Value — Will customers rate it 8/10? Will they recommend it?
  8. Turn Customers into Proof — Build referrals, case studies, and a flywheel for growth.

This isn't theory. It's a playbook.

A playbook for making corporate ventures viable, scalable, and worth every euro invested.

If you're launching ventures, leading innovation teams, or backing ideas inside a corporate, this episode will save you months (and a lot of wasted budget).

-Don't create unicorns,Let's breed blue whales.🐋

(Podcast episode, ~13:13 audio.)

Related reading: What You Need To Do Before Scaling Your ventures: Close the Validation Loop

Prefer reading? The article version: Close the Validation Loop.

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